Centroid Community CNC Support Forum

corbin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:40 am

suntravel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:09 pm I think you are overcomplicating things...

IMHO after decades of CNC with ATC in my job, I never needed a message if the machines are changing tools.

I agree -- experienced CNC operators don't need much to make the machine do what they want to do.

I'm trying to make it more user friendly, particularly for hobbyists. I also just like writing software..

Corbin

I agree with Uwe, it seems I spend more time commenting out lines of code in the new OEM macros so they stop wasting my time.

That is why I also edit the PLC to make keybord Enter real cycle start again

Uwe

suntravel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:08 am That is why I also edit the PLC to make keybord Enter real cycle start again

Uwe

That was one of the first things I did.

In the 6 years now that I've been using CNC12 I've never had to make ANY PLC changes. Who would have thought I'd have to learn PLC programming just to make the keyboard work like it's supposed to? It was done for safety reasons? Really?

If you want to Start hit Enter
- Enter -

IF you really want to start hit Cycle Start
- Cycle Start -

Are you sure? Press Enter and Cycle Start together !



Uwe

And if you are REALLY, REALLY sure you want to start, press Cycle Start while patting your head and standing on one foot.

ShawnM wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:55 pm And if you are REALLY, REALLY sure you want to start, press Cycle Start while patting your head and standing on one foot.

That is for the next update with webcam and AI to verify the user position

Uwe

suntravel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:36 pm

ShawnM wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:55 pm And if you are REALLY, REALLY sure you want to start, press Cycle Start while patting your head and standing on one foot.

That is for the next update with webcam and AI to verify the user position

Uwe

OMG, that's funny as hell. Thanks for the laugh Uwe.

Regarding corbin's initial application:

There is already a well-defined place on the screen for status updates, to tell the operator what the machine is doing as it runs. That is the scrolling message box in the upper right.

Floating message boxes in the middle of the screen are an appropriate place for user-interactive prompts that require a response before operation can continue.

Right now, the PLC program can add messages to the scrolling message box, but a CNC macro cannot.

Perhaps what is needed for this application is a new M200-series M function which constructs the message string per the usual rules, then adds it to the scrolling message box. Such messages could also be logged, according to the priority level in Parameter 140.

If you are trying to make using the control friendly for hobbyists and novice users, don't train them out of looking at the message box. Train them to get used to looking at the message box.

cnckeith wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:03 pm and we fixed this issue this morning so the fix will be in v5.22 hopefully will be released soon!

v5.22 is now available.
https://www.centroidcnc.com/centroid_di ... loads.html

cncsnw wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 5:58 pm Write a program or macro that includes a line like:

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M200 "Insert tool and press Cycle Start"

Run that program with P10 = 32.

Then run that same program with P10 = 0.

Do you notice the difference?

I propose that M200 should display the specified message (and also wait indefinitely for Cycle Start) regardless of the value of P10.

noted, thanks.