Questions about power source
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Questions about power source
I just bought a Lagunmatic CNC with a Centroid M400 system. I am trying to figure out how to power it. The operators video said you can use 220 single phase to power it by hooking up L2 and L3. I was an industrial mechanic for years and went back to school and got my engineering degree, so I am familiar with all this. The question I have is, in the video it says there is a sticker for the voltage that the control cabinet uses, and shows a 220v cabinet. But mine says 120v but has 3 phase wiring across the main disconnect. The video also says that you need 3 phase for the spindle, but the spindle is controlled through the contactors and they get their main power through the main disconnect. I am using a 15hp vfd to run my 3 phase tools.So can I wire everything up with 2 different circuits, the contactors can be supplied with 240 3p from my vfd and the control circuits can be powered by another 120v circuit from a separate outlet?
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Re: Questions about power source
Just a quick edit, I know that 240 single phase is 120 to ground, and I could take a single line off my input to my vfd, or just hook up another circuit entirely. I think I would want to hook up another circuit as I would be afraid the VFD would produce too much line noise and screw with my electronics.
Another edit, tracing the wires, I looks like they go from main disconnect, to the contactors, then out to the spindle motor, so I don't think this machine has spindle control other than off/on. I'm not even sure it has directional control, unless it's done at the contactor
3rd edit: I can't just run 3 phase with a vfd through a contactor, the inrush current trips out the VFD. So I would need to wire the contactor control circuit to the VFD to start the motor and then start it with the VFD.
Another edit, tracing the wires, I looks like they go from main disconnect, to the contactors, then out to the spindle motor, so I don't think this machine has spindle control other than off/on. I'm not even sure it has directional control, unless it's done at the contactor
3rd edit: I can't just run 3 phase with a vfd through a contactor, the inrush current trips out the VFD. So I would need to wire the contactor control circuit to the VFD to start the motor and then start it with the VFD.
Re: Questions about power source
Centroid provided cabinets wired in a variety of ways, so without a picture of your disconnect and main fuses, all is speculation.
I would speculate that you have the most common (read: least expensive) configuration, which used two separate service cords: one 240VAC 3-phase service to power the spindle motor and (optionally) flood coolant pump; and a second 120VAC single-phase service to power the computer and servo drive.
Yes, if you want to use a VFD to provide power to the spindle, you can remove the reversing contactor set and use the Centroid PLC outputs to send run-forward and run-reverse commands to the VFD.
I would speculate that you have the most common (read: least expensive) configuration, which used two separate service cords: one 240VAC 3-phase service to power the spindle motor and (optionally) flood coolant pump; and a second 120VAC single-phase service to power the computer and servo drive.
Yes, if you want to use a VFD to provide power to the spindle, you can remove the reversing contactor set and use the Centroid PLC outputs to send run-forward and run-reverse commands to the VFD.
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Re: Questions about power source
Thank you for the feedback. Here are the pictures. Since I didn't have a picture of the disconnect, I know it is the same as in the training video, so I took a screenshot of that. . The only difference is that they tap off of L1 to power the 120v circuit instead of having a dedicated stand alone cord feeding the 120v circuit, but that is trivial to run another cord with 120v to power the circuit.cncsnw wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:24 am Centroid provided cabinets wired in a variety of ways, so without a picture of your disconnect and main fuses, all is speculation.
I would speculate that you have the most common (read: least expensive) configuration, which used two separate service cords: one 240VAC 3-phase service to power the spindle motor and (optionally) flood coolant pump; and a second 120VAC single-phase service to power the computer and servo drive.
Yes, if you want to use a VFD to provide power to the spindle, you can remove the reversing contactor set and use the Centroid PLC outputs to send run-forward and run-reverse commands to the VFD.
Re: Questions about power source
Yours would not have come from the factory that way. That would require a five-wire service cord (3 phases, neutral, and ground).The only difference is that they tap off of L1 to power the 120v circuit instead of having a dedicated stand alone cord feeding the 120v circuit, but that is trivial to run another cord with 120v to power the circuit.
The disconnect in your screenshot is of a system with two service cords. The 120VAC single-phase cord goes through the two auxiliary contacts on the right side of the switch, while the 240VAC 3-phase goes through the main poles.