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Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:27 am
by suntravel
Using external tool setting with Method 1 ( Z home Ref )

Uwe

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:13 am
by Aurelien
suntravel wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:06 pm
Aurelien wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:21 pm keith, I take advantage of your explanation to ask what is the best way to have an extremely precise home Z sensor?
is it all in the choice of sensor? or maybe the approach speed?
What is the most suitable type of sensor?

THANKS
I have less than 0.003mm deviation with a cheap NPN sensor, but I drive to the face of the sensor.

Mechanical is Balluff top notch, but expensive:

https://www.balluff.com/de-de/products/BNS004U

Uwe
thank you uwe.

I don't understand what you mean by "I drive in front of the sensor?"

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:36 pm
by Nigelo
My understanding: Uwe is saying his Axis "flag" passes across the face of the sensor rather than approaching head-on.

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:51 pm
by suntravel
Mounting of the Z-axis NPN

Uwe

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:27 pm
by cnckeith
cncsnw wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:38 am You might also want to clarify that the prerequisites for using Z Home as Z Reference are both repeatable Z homing, and a fixed table height.

A knee mill with a closed-loop control -- which finds home using a switch combined with the encoder index pulse -- has entirely repeatable Z axis homing, but generally requires a physical reference tool because the tool measuring surface (the table) can move up and down.
yep for sure! thanks.

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:28 pm
by cnckeith
suntravel wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:27 am Using external tool setting with Method 1 ( Z home Ref )

Uwe
excellent , will add.

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:30 pm
by Aurelien
suntravel wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 1:51 pm Mounting of the Z-axis NPN

Uwe
A picture is worth more than 1000 words! Thanks uwe it's perfectly clear now.

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:41 pm
by cnckeith
rev3 attached.

I still need to incorporate all of your suggestions. :D thanks.

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:12 pm
by Ken Rychlik
Will the new version auto store the tool offset in the library? I changed to z zero button to Z Reference so my brain understands.

If the homing wizard section had a spot to give an extra move it would help. So if the home limit switch for x is 2" from the home spot you want, you enter that number in the wiz. It would save having to make custom home macro's Nothing to do with the tool offset really but I wanted to remind you.

Ken

Re: today i drafted a discussion paper on tool height offset methods

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:45 pm
by cnckeith
yeah. that is a good idea, i'm so used to just editing the .hom file, but that would be easy to add to the wizard homing menu. its on the list